Business as usual
Posted by Sitemaster on August 30, 2007
Well! Mayor Thielemans believes he has the final say!
Thousands of people believe otherwise.
From the start SIOE has endeavoured to establish a peaceful, lawful demonstration.
However, Mayor Thielemans predicts his voters will be violent and, therefore, he orders that unlawfulness wins over lawfulness.
Mayor Thielemans has subordinated democracy and justice to his own unproven prejuduces.
SIOE will exhaust all legal avenues to have the demonstration, legal under all European Union legislation, reinstated as agreed with the Brussels police.
While those avenues are travelled along, the plans go ahead as before.
This matter has now become of WORLD importance, not just for Europe.
THIS IS TOO BIG AN ISSUE TO BE TRIVIALISED BY BIRTHDAY PARTIES ETC!
SIOE makes it clear here, once and for all, that SIOE takes sole charge for 11th September activities carried out to STOP ISLAMISATION OF EUROPE!
With this goes some responsibility, so get your information from SIOE directly. Information will be released as 11th September draws nearer.
So the original Aims and rules http://siad.wordpress.com/2007/07/11/aims-of-the-march-911/ apply and only national flags and SIOE banners will be allowed as agreed with the Brussels police.
One concession!
ADDITIONAL PLAIN WHITE BANNERS WILL BE ALLOWED – ONLY!
As these are recognised in Belgium as protests against curtailment of free speech (Thielemans style).
A CHALLENGE TO ALL POLITICAL PARTIES AND ORGANISATIONS, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO BELIEVE THE EU TO BE AN UNDEMOCRATIC, BUREAUCRATIC, OLIGARCHY OF OPPRESSION
Now is the time for all such parties and organisations to challenge what the European Union has become.
PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS AND MOBILISE YOUR MEMBERS TO JOIN THOSE WHO ARE DETERMINED TO PUT A STOP TO THE KALIFASCIST SUPERSTATE
Everybody reading this who SERIOUSLY wants to put a stop to the KALIFASCIST SUPERSTATE has a duty to be in Brussels on 11th September.
You simply have a duty to be there!
August 30, 2007 at 12:35 am
Fantastic!!!!! Well said.
August 30, 2007 at 12:52 am
One concession!
ADDITIONAL PLAIN WHITE BANNERS WILL BE ALLOWED – ONLY!
A concession maybe, but also truly a telling sign: a clear display of what cannot be said the normal way.
Moreover, white (light) is the getting together of all different colours in one powerful bundle. SIOE, thnx for your suggestion. I humbly rest my case :-7
CU in el-Bruss, capital (blunder) of the EU,
which should be restored to its former name Brussel a great city in civilized Europe. C’était au temps où Bruxelles rêvait..chantait..bruxellait!
It indeed is our duty.
Sag.
August 30, 2007 at 1:14 am
Islam is a human disease. If you don’t stop it soon, Europe is doomed. I hope this 9/11 wakes up your politicians.
August 30, 2007 at 1:26 am
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August 30, 2007 at 1:41 am
hear … hear!
August 30, 2007 at 2:39 am
Very good. We will be back to the site for future details.
August 30, 2007 at 9:13 am
I’ve just read that many people from Blood and Honour, and Stormfront, are planning to come to Brussel. They’re coming with busses towards the Capitol of Europe.
This can’t be the meaning of the demo? The media will pick this up and will call it a demo of racists en extremists.
http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_567304.html?wt.bron=homeArt3
August 30, 2007 at 10:23 am
This morning , belgian radio news(literal translation) : “Several extreme rightwing organizations want to have an “ANTI-ISLAM” demo in brussels on 9/11 , Major thielemans had forbidden the demo and the high court now followed him in his decision to forbid it. ”
C´mon guys , isnt there any way to demand a -right-of-answer- or something … they willingly lie , calling sioe,siad and no sharia here “several extreme rightwing organizations” who want to demo against ISLAM …
Anyone with bright ideas please come forward and speak out !
August 30, 2007 at 11:02 am
Notice the media dare not talk to SIOE. They know SIOE is not extreme and we have the answers. I challenged one rubbish journal which likened us to the KKK and the so-called journalist merely resorted to insults.
The real KKK are Kuffarphobic, Kalifascist Killers!
August 30, 2007 at 11:04 am
hln.be? Nobody takes that seriously. They didn’t publish our riposte to AEL’s dribblings. They are not interested in the truth only propagandising their own prejudices.
August 30, 2007 at 11:38 am
The way we are doing this is by the rules of the same people that we are against, ie there rules, so a different stratergy is needed were they can’t bend the rules to favour themselves, after all is this not what islam has been doing in Europe for the last 50 years, perhaps we should learn from the enemy, there will be parts of the main stream media that do show sympathy towards our opinions and are in themselves against the powers that be.
The enemy of my enemy, is my friend.
The above is what i wrote i a previous post…..the media and goverments are on the same side, none of that is going to change anytime soon as long as they get the islamic vote and financial backing, if this march on 9/11 doesn’t go well then it will go very wrong and brand SIOE as far right and racist wether you all like it or not, that in itself will drive away a large portion of the general public….. i feel that we need to learn the “Art of War” build finance, find friendly lawyers and media, fight the enemy at there own game, but use there weakneses, not head on, thats like standing infront of a frieght train…..
Remember, the media can and do say whatever gets a good story, no matter if they tell the true facts or not, if the media is not on SIOE’s side then they will be against SIOE, in which case its an end game.
No matter how big the mountain,it can be climbed, one step at a time….
August 30, 2007 at 12:32 pm
Thank you, Monique (7) for the warning.
I am sure the organisers are alert to the possibility of European Nazis seeking to hijack our efforts and have devised tactics to neutralise their intrusion.
We must all stand together and be resolute to see that they do not succeed.
No Pasaran!
August 30, 2007 at 12:58 pm
Our leftist politicians and our leftist media are trying to depict all of us as “extreme right wing racist skinheads with swastika tattoos” — seeking to devastate Brussels and slaughter it’s peaceful moslim population !
August 30, 2007 at 1:16 pm
I am from belgium, and on our news they called the organization an extreem-right movement and so on. I am outraged, they try to make sioe look like a bunch of fasischst’s and nazi’s. I hope sioe will take a note of this and take action. i for one am going to send an mail to the news redaction, but i know it won’t help. its just to let them know i’m very angry, i hope others will do this to.
August 30, 2007 at 1:43 pm
How can an anti-racist organisation come to be labelled ‘extreme right’?
Key in this issue is violence. In Denmark, we have a lot of problem with leftwing extremism and violence. We had a bit of right-wing extremism recently as well, which caused the leader of the tiny Danish neo-Nazi party to end up in jail. He’s still there
Peaceful assembly is a fundamental citizen right, open to all with no record of violence. ‘White Pride’ and similar groups have a record of violence. They are not welcome, I think this needs to be made clear.
We need people to stand for our rights. Peacefully.
August 30, 2007 at 1:45 pm
Concerning the media issue, I think we should see this in a broader perspective.
There are media for us, and media against us - this is natural in a confrontation of this magnitude and importance.
And the more we hit the news, either positive or negative, the larger the issue will become. So in a way both the negative and the positive media coverage will be good.
Local media, like the media in Belgium obviously do not see the event in a international perspective - if they did that, they would be a bit more careful about depicting a public movement, demonstrating for freedom of speech at the 11 of september as racist.
The demonstration is a very clear comment to America, fighting for the first amendment, the very core of the american constitution. So by depicting SIOE as racist, they are inadvertedly depicting the very core of America as racist.
That is not a very wise thing to do, is i a very grave insult to the americans. And I hope the americans will react to this.
This demonstration is only the beginning of a long fight, and it will take some time to win. When Voltaire fought he had to flee most of the time, as well as Socrates - it was difficult for them, and it will difficult for us. But in the long run democratic movements have a tendency to win in Europe, because it represents the spirit of Europe. The movements tend to renew Europe, they are often called renaissances - rebirth of the ancient Athens.
We just have to be honest in our fight against tyranny, and the movement will gain momentum.
August 30, 2007 at 1:59 pm
How likely is it chance that we are able to keep those guys in control? They will be wearing their jackets with symbols, their own banners; they’ll shout their usual slogans. Can we baby-sit them the entire afternoon? You know, they are as easy to talk to as their anarchistic counterparts.
As a side note, let’s not forget that the authorities are taking their measures already. They know the demonstration will proceed despite the ban. Police might be present from the early morning, possibly blocking all access to the EU offices, or preventing people to form large groups. The desire to enter Brussels’ center might also lead to tension if Thielemans decides use riot police.
In general, we should avoid ANY confrontation; no racist slogan, no stones, no fighting with police or counter-protesters. Since the frustration about the topic as well as the demonstration have increased, I guess we can all imagine that the atmosphere might become tense, under certain circumstances.
We have to maintain entirely peaceful and ignore any provocation from police, AEL or anarchists. Only then we can show who are the more civilized.
August 30, 2007 at 2:15 pm
Flemish - if you could provide links it would be helpful
August 30, 2007 at 2:43 pm
http://www.vrt.be/vrt_master/systeem/vrt_mail/index.shtml
This is the website of VRT (Flemish Radio and Television) or send lots of e-mails to info@vrtnieuws.net
I too was very angry this morning when I heard them saying on the radio that skinheads and extreme right intend to march in Brussels against islam. This is pure disinformation and intoxication of the opinion of my people.
August 30, 2007 at 3:00 pm
@Flemish: Do you have a link or adress, so we all can send a mail…
August 30, 2007 at 3:02 pm
@ Stephen ,
Flemish was probably speaking about the radio news , the same one i was speaking about (comment nr. 8 )
The news on belgian radio stations is uniform (one company makes the topics and transfers the news to all stations , so in essence the news is the same on all stations)
the sation i heard it on was http://www.stubru.be , but the guys making the stories are probably reuters/belga : http://www.belga.be
August 30, 2007 at 3:34 pm
it was on the television news, but i’ll see if i can find some links from newspapers and translate it for the ohter people here.
August 30, 2007 at 3:36 pm
The high court confirmed the decision of the mayor. Don’t be bad loosers and accept the decision.
August 30, 2007 at 3:39 pm
yggdrasil #15
No i don’t agree with you on the media issue, negative media working for the powers that be will result in SIOE having 5 members drinking cold coffee in a cafe in Brussels talking about what could have been, positive media coverage will result in hundreds of thousands of people interested in what this site stands for…..
In the uk, the BNP seem to have problems placing adverts with news papers, if you are a member of the BNP and work for the Police or other goverment paid job the chances are that you will lose your job, as the teacher in the north of England is unfortunatly finding out, this is pressure from a country, like Europe that once had the freedom of speech…
We are an easy target, why? because we are accountable, we are mainstream, mainly with jobs, houses, individual, and without group protection, im not a union person, but in this country even the unions are the weakest they have ever been….with islam, they stick together and its like standing on a wasps nest, thats why they are strong, and they know that.
As a group, strong, as an individual, nothing……….
August 30, 2007 at 3:40 pm
Well said, Yggdrasil (15)
August 30, 2007 at 3:42 pm
See you all in Brussel!
Klaus Blau & Friends
Frankfurt, Germany
August 30, 2007 at 3:57 pm
If we only wear white banners and seal our mouth with white plaster nobody can keep us away or confuse us with the dark nazi-figures. We should have a plaster like a christian cross. We can wave with white handcerchiefs but also wear a black mourning band or veil. Maybe even a white rose like the symbol of resistance against the nazis of the brother and sister Scholl would be ok, because they had no free speach and were catched by spraeding flyers. I know, we are not yet in danger for our lives like them, but i am sure, they would have done like us in Brussel.
We should behave as Luc says.
August 30, 2007 at 5:10 pm
SF # 25
Well I certainly agree, that the media have power, and media combined with a socialist state is a pretty powerful opponent.
My point was just, that you have to see the strategy in an international context - there is negative mediacoverage in Belgium, but we do have very good media coverage in other countries. So all in all, it adds up - and it also calls the bluff of the State controlled media of Belgium.
We have the advantage of being an international organization, usually media is controlled on national level - so we are in many ways out of control.
The European union is a funny thing, actually in a way it is very weak. It has the ability to make laws, but not the ability to make people obey them. In this matter they have to count on the national states. And if the national states somehow chooses not to obey, they have a problem.
Another weakness is the media control - usually a state controls people to some extent through media. This is not really an option of the European Union, they have some control in the larger countries, but very little control in most of the other countries. So if people seriously disagree with a EU politics (as the immigration issue) it is very hard for the EU to influence all the nations of Europe, they can only influence some isolated corners of the European union.
Considering the fact, that EU makes 70 % of the laws of Europe, this situation is a bit insecure for the EU. And that is good for us.
And, to my knowledge, most of the feedback we get is positive, people are coming.
August 31, 2007 at 12:20 am
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