THE DEMO IS STILL ON! – BE THERE!!
Posted by Sitemaster on September 10, 2007
Contrary to false press reports, the STOP ISLAMISATION OF EUROPE demonstration in Brussels on 11th September is still happening
Place du Luxembourg
1050 Elsene
at 12.00 pm
Mark said
Do we have any info about demonstration “against rasism and islamofobia” which is organized by AEL in Bruxel 11.9? This information is based on La Vanguardia and Allgemeine Zeitung.
Steiner said
In regards to Belgium…if Belgium breaks up into Wallovia and Flanders, could Brussels declare itself independent of both? If so, is this a recipe in getting a muslim city state?
Is this a topic to of discussion. We dont want secession anywhere in Europe! We dont wish to be divided and conquered by demographic coups contrived by those that do not have European interests at heart.
Is this not also happening in Scotland, where a scottish party wishes to seced from England ? and is being backed by islamists…
Antonio said
La Vanguardia and Allgemeine Zeitung are filthy traidors that desserve to be boicoted if they give information about AEL demo and not about SIOE demo.
Forgot about AEL demo. It is the best thing that could happen, SIOE demo banned and AEL demo autorized.
Steve (Brussels) said
Mark:
Permit for AEL demonstration on September 11 was refused by Thielemans. Abu Jahjah has “democratically” submitted to this decision.
Stephen Gash said
Does anybody actually believe that the AEL demo was not a bogus one to save Thielemans’s face?
Gote said
Yew righth, I´ll see youm in Brusels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steiner said
Regarding accusations against SIOE, that it is supposedly fomenting hatred against muslims.
SIOE must note that the parallels between Nazism and Islamists are too great for Europeans to not protest.
The great majority of Germans were not Nazis. In fact a very small tiny minority were. Yet, Nazism was able to control Germanys destiny.
Had people taken Nazism seriously then, we may have avoided a war that killed over 100 million people.
It should be noted that SIOE feels that the case with Islamists is the same and as concerned europeans of all colours SIOE endeavors to address this very great issue.
Pictures and videos should be shown to let sharia speak for itself…and to inform Europeans to what it really means. Freedom to speak regarding these issues must not be thwarted by governments that have shown themselves unwilling or unable to stop extremist Islam in our midst…
It ought to be pointed out that while there are so called muslim moderate countries, they have done everything in their power to prevent non-muslim and muslim people in their midst to live the liberties that the U.N. mandates, to which they are signatories…
The foreign workforces in these rich nations such as Kuwait, Saudi Arabia …are not allowed to obtain citizenship, not allowed to freely practice their religion.., not allowed to work without the fear of being harassed, etc. etc. etc. Hence, there is a need to challenge our governments in order to address these issues..which have allowed to go on and on while the west has turned a blind eye.
As a result, we in the west are beginning to face the same type of discrimination and treatment from those that have not learned to live with their neighbors. At the same time that our governments are allowing this ideological extremism to practically grow unchallenged.
Antonio said
PM Erdogan of Turky said
“These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.”
So dont offend Islam saying that there is moderate Islam
http://www.thememriblog.org/turkey/blog_personal/en/2595.htm
humanity said
#5 Stephen Gash
I do think that AEL demo is not a bogus one to save Thielemans’s face…. in deed socialist like Thieleman’s and left wing politicians are in dead lock condition to tolerate Islamisten….. and they will bow next to Islamisten demands, because if they speak.. then the corpse in their cupboards will also come out…… and forget about so called right wings…
the problem i see in Europeans, they see everything in black and white, and forget to see the gray picture… either someone is right wing, or left wing…. and this is where they are loosing the battle…
anyways you only need to look in post WW2 politics in Britain…or Just search for Kim Philby… you will get the answer of your Question….
let me make the work easy for you…
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={0F956A35-69D8-4CC4-A05A-0F01651F14D9}
and don’t forget John Philby.. father of Kim Philby… or better say, a Deobandi Muslim convert, that had founded Neo-Nazi British peoples party in 1939 to hold the war, and was the main design architect behind the racist state of Saudi Arabia… and had delayed creation of Israel in post Arab revolt era…..
hope by now British are aware of Deobandis…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=480470&in_page_id=1770
this was a global problem… and this is still a global problem…. only was thrown under the carpet after WW2…. ignoring every aspect, which might had proved at last… that holocaust was lobbied by Islamisten…
Greetings….
See you soon, perhaps in Denmark…
Pepijn Dever said
http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_578332.html?wt.bron=homeArt18
Belgian newspaper HLN : the belgian high council just overturned a ban from antwerps mayor janssens (socialist) to hold a demo today.
The ban was overturned after the Association Pour la Restitution des biens volés aux Juifs (APR)(a brussels jewish organisation) filed a complaint against the ban because it was violating their constitutional guaranteed right of freedom of speech and freedom of gathering.
Well i´ll be damned …
kukuji said
There should be freedom to express and its very good that the people of europe are getting the lead from Brussels. Its not voilence . Its a peaceful demonstration. There should not be any fear from this to anyone.Theres nothing wrong in this. In fact the Ban was wrong. Long live the liberty,freedom and democracy. It does’nt hurt anyone.
Steiner said
I urge SIOE to consider and point out the state that Belgium is in. If indeed Wallonia and Flanders separate, then the islamists and their friends may play their card and obtain a city-state – Brussels(easily throwing out the nonmuslims there(like Kosovo)).
This would embolden them and their friends to foment more division elsewhere.
SIOE must directly address this issue in its speeches and point out that it would be possible elsewhere as politicians like Thielman will be influenced to act in the interest of nonEuropeans.
Steiner said
If a city state like Brussels can be created, than why not other city states where nonmuslims gain a majority. This is a precedent that must not be allowed at any cost.
It will embolden foreign states to support divisions through funding of extremists. This truly will show that extremism does pay off, and lead to more extremism elsewhere.
Konrad said
Hi everybody,
i will join the “party” tomorrow.
BUT: I need a lift vom Cologne to Brussels at 9.00 AM tommorow.
Please send me a email
Merkadresse(at)web.de
Hallo an Alle,
ich werde morgen dabei sein!
Aber: Ich brauche eine Mitfahrgelegenheit von Köln HBF oder Düsseldorf HBF nach Brüssel – so ca um 9:00 Uhr.
Bitte meldet euch unter
Merkadresse(ätt)web.de
SF. said
Hi to everyone, i hope tomorrow goes well for all those who go to Brussels, please take care and look out for each other…
I suppose this is the line in the sand.
Would someone please explain the Wallonia and Flanders story, i don’t know anything about it….thanks.
Colin London said
hi everyone,
good luck tomorrow, stay safe. I am looking forward to future anti islam demos/marches in the uk, good to see the movement growing.
Philippe said
@ #15
In short, Belgium is a small country counting 10-11 million citizens.
The country is divided in 3 regions (Flanders in the North -dutch, Brussels-Capital in the center – bilingual but 80% are french speakers, and Wallonia in the South – french).
At present, the North part has better economics and pays more tax to the federal state. They blame the South lead by french socialists for not working hard enough and for not implementing necessary reforms. In the past, the economics used to be much better in the South while the North were mostly uneducated farmers.
Anyway, politicians from both sides are fighting against each other instead of taking care of our unity and economics. At this stage, most citizens feel proud to be belgians and only an increasing few consider separatism as a solution (mostly in the North).
Philippe said
The Brussels police has urged cars to be removed from the streets in preparation of a possible SIOE demonstration tomorrow.
Ben van der Kooi said
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQMOxMtakgY
I hope that God bless the many people tomorrow in Brussel
Europe proud en free,
the islamitic colonists and their mosque’s not for you or me.
Europe is not Allahs playground.
They must go back….!
There is a time of coming, and a time of going.
And the time of going has come.
We will meet you all tomorrow.
Flanders Fields said
There are words of encouragement from those who are not able to go posted at my site. These are from only a couple of sites in the US, so you can imajine how many thousands are encouraging the people of Europe to do what is right against totalitarians. That is as much against the socialist leftists who import Islamics, and against their new bride, the Islamic Shariaist.
See you in Brussels!
RA said
@SF,
First they tried to scare of people by denying our right to protest.
Then they tried to scare us away with threaths of violent “natives”.
After that came the AEL, threatening to have a counter demonstration.
Then came the terrorist threat, 9-11 would see another twin towers in Brussels.
Then cane the threth that violent neo-nazi’s would pillage and plunder.
Now comes the threat that there will be civil war…
The powers that be, those who do not want this demonstration to happen, use everythign they’ve got to discourage people from joining this demonstration.
There has been a vote today in Belgium to rid the Flanders fraction of the mony wasting Wallonians, but that is nothing as big as they pretend it to be to discourage you from attending. It was just talk.
humanity said
#15 SF.
who is Wallonia? and who is Flanders ?
doctorbulldog said
I wish you all the best and hope everything goes well.
Cheers
Anat said
It is now September 11, 8:42 Brussels time. I am in Israel, and will not be able to join the demonstration, but I think this is an important moment. All of you at SIOE have my best wishes.
Last Saturday I watched Pavarotti’s funeral, and I thought that the dignity of it was a glimpse of Europe that is in danger of soon being no more. Please don’t let it happen.
Good luck and keep safe,
Anat
No Dhimmi said
Some of us Yanks are with you in solidarity and are anxiously awaiting news.
Your leaders have sold the European populace as CHATTEL to Arab oil interests – that may well be why they refuse to do anything about the Islamisation of Europe.
The US rejected Arab demands, but the European Community (EC, later EU), more dependent on Arab oil than America, decided on a policy of outright appeasement…. Over time, the EAD would institute a number of long-term policy agreements that guaranteed the Europeans both an uninterrupted oil supply and lucrative export contracts with oil-rich Arab states. In return, the Europeans would facilitate international recognition of the PLO at a time when its charter called for Israel’s destruction, and enable Arab religious, cultural, and intellectual institutions to achieve unprecedented influence in Europe.
The Arabs also pressured the EC to relax its immigration rules and permit a massive influx of Muslims into Europe. From its inception, every EAD meeting passed resolutions in support of Muslim immigration to Europe.
Pipeline to Peril
That explains a few things, eh? Many European leaders are not only afraid of the Muslim terrorist – er, leaders – but they are squarely in their pocket. Unfortunately, you Europeans have paid MUCH too much for your oil/gas – up to the total destruction of your culture.
No Dhimmi
The Truth About Islam
http://islamwatchers.blogspot.com
P.S. Any time these jackals start howling “racism” we all need to remind them quite loudly that ISLAM IS NOT A RACE. There are Arab Muslims, Persian Muslims, African Muslims, Chinese Muslims, Bosnian Muslims, etc. – ALL races. Thus, the term “racism” has no meaning whatsoever, and those who use it show very dubious character.
P.P.S. Also, when the complainers start bringing out 9/11 conspiracy theories to absolve Muslims, please remind that equally as loudly that MUSLIM clerics and leaders themselves are happily accepting responsibility for 9/11, using the “magnificent 19 martyrs” to incite MORE hatred and violence.
y_not said
Hi,
See you at 12.
1/
I received an email from the VRT. See my formerly comment on correct newsgathering : http://sioe.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/peaceful-911-demonstration-in-brussels/#comment-3582
from “noreply@vrt.be”
Dag mijnheer,
Wij danken u voor uw mail.
Wij hebben kennis genomen van uw standpunt. Wij bezorgen het aan de betrokken medewerkers ter informatie.
Met vriendelijke groet,
William Liénard
VRT-Nieuwsdienst
Translation:
Hi sir.
We thank you for your email. We have taken knowledge of your viewpoint. We will bring it as information to the concerned contributors.
With friendly greetings,
William Liénard
VRT-newsdepartment
Ok, so that’s just a standard response I guess. But maybe someone will have payed attention at it. We can only try.
2/
I saw a posting on http://z7.invisionfree.com/KVHV_Gent/index.php?showforum=2 (menu disabled after my email).
There was an appeal for alternative slogans (alternative rallying cries) and they came up with “Europa Europees – Islamisten buiten – Vlaamse jongeren” -> sort off “Europe European – Islamists out – flemish youth” There would also be lots of flemish flags.
I send an email to the moderator. In short: to follow the aimes and rules outlined by SIOE and stand together/united for this one day and that the demo has one goal: to stop islamisation in Europe.
I didnt’ get an answer and noticed yesterday evening the formum-menu was disabled.
Full text of my email to kvhv-gent in dutch (no time to translate now because I should be getting off to Brussels):
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Beste,
Ik zag je posting op jullie forum : http://z7.invisionfree.com/KVHV_Gent/index.php?showtopic=1145&st=25
“Ondertussen heeft uw dienaar niet stilgezeten en heb ik ervoor gezorgd dat enkele jongerenverenigingen achter één spandoek zullen opstappen. Onder andere het Katholiek Vlaams Hoogstudenten Verbond (KVHV), de Nationalistische Studentenvereniging (NSV!) en de Vlaams Belang Jongeren (VBJ) zullen één gezamenlijke boodschap de wereld in sturen: “Europa Europees – islamisten buiten”. ”
Mag ik wijzen op de expliciete vraag van de organisatoren (SIOE) :
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There is just one demonstration in Brussels on 11th September
Posted by Sitemaster on September 4th, 2007
There have been some rumours that different political parties and organisations have planned to hold several demonstrations in Brussels.
THIS COULD NOT BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH!
On the contrary, the political parties that have expressed an interest in the Stop Islamisation Of Europe have agreed with the Aims and Rules of the demonstration http://siad.wordpress.com/2007/07/11/aims-of-the-march-911/.
This is because they have ALL recognised that the greatest threat to our way of life in Europe is Islamisation.
They have ALL agreed to put other differences aside for this one historic event on this most historic of days.
So, members of all parties and organisations will be in Brussels as groups of ordinary citizens carrying only SIOE banners and/or plain white banners and/or banners enscribed with the rallying cries:-
No Sharia Here!
Democracy not Theocracy!
Enough is Enough!
They have ALL agreed to not carry any identifying banners or symbols because we are brothers and sisters for this one day.
There is just one demonstration in Brussels on 11th September 2007 and it is called
STOP ISLAMISATION OF EUROPE!
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Zie dus ook : http://siad.wordpress.com/2007/07/11/aims-of-the-march-911/
en uiteraard http://sioe.wordpress.com/ waar alle up-to-date-informatie te lezen is.
Dus gelieve alstublieft de wil van de Engelse en Deense *organisatoren* te volgen en geen Vlaamse vlaggen, eigen slogans etc. mee te brengen alstublieft. (de Vlaamse vlag staat bij mij ook ver boven de belgische maar ik leg mij daar bij neer en breng dus geen vlag mee en beperk mij tot de voorgestelde slogans).
Een voorstel: gebruik uw spandoek maar vervang de slogan “Europa Europees – Islamisten buiten” door één van de voorgestelde slogans en behoudt het onderschrift?
De organisatoren hebben al genoeg moeilijkheden met deze betoging (denken we aan de (linkse) onjuiste berichtgeving in de media) maar tonen een ruggegraat om toch door te gaan. Het mag echt niet de bedoeling zijn om deze betoging te kapen.
Deze betoging heeft maar 1 doel : stop de islamisering in Europa
Het is dus de bedoeling dat alle Europeanen die meestappen in de betoging dit broederlijk en zusterlijk naast elkaar doen en even andere mogelijke meningsverschillen achterwege laten. Dit kan toch wel voor 1 dag hoop ik.
Nogmaals, het is een Europese betoging, geen Vlaamse, linkse, rechtse, centum, etc.
Alle deelnemers moeten verenigd zijn om op te komen voor 1 zaak: stop de islamisering van Europa !
Alvast bedankt mocht u de wil van de organisatoren willen volgen.
Hopend op een massale opkomst van gelijkgezinden (tegen de islamisering), groet ik u.
Alvast bedankt voor uw reactie.
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All the above is maybe of some interest for the future of SIOE-demo’s etc. Not only policital parties should be contacted, but also all sort of associations that have an interest to participate.
See you all…
The Jut said
Godspeed. I wish I could be there with you.
Kenny said
SF,
well , about Flanders an Wallonia :
The main problem is that there is a cultural difference between Flanders and Wallonia .
Many Walloons see the Fleming as a lesser being , this originates from a long time ago , where the rich people spoke French , and basically exploited the Flemish speaking majority ( also not that all college education was in French ) . The Walloon richness came from the coal mines , wich were controlled by Walloons , and Flemish people worked in them ( Walloons didn’t won’t to get their hands dirty) .
Off course , the coal mines shut down , and while Flanders invensted in the future and worked hard , the Walloons didn’t change much .
This result in a situation where Flanders is richer , and his less unemployment than Wallonia . However , since the welfare state is a federal matter , The Flemish people actually pay for most of Wallonia’s unemployment . They also get money by other federal matters , such as money from speeding fines .
On it’s own , this is not a problem , it’s solidarity , yet the problem is that despite all this money , nothing is changing , it’s only getting worse . So this is one of the reasons people want to separate .
An other reason is that the Walloons ( and in partical Walloon politicians ) still consider themselves to be more important than the Flemish . So they demands everything they want , and accept nothing that the Flemish majority wants ( basically , a minority of Waloons can decide over a majority of Flemish ) .
This shows itself after the latest elections , where they have to form a goverment , yet the Walloons are blocking everything .
ElCid2004 said
Hope there will be no neonazi’s to ruin the image of the protest.
Good luck, I can not show, but if I could I would because I see it as a moral obligation.
Greetings from Sverige
Gabriele Sbattella said
Unfortunately I cannot be there at the demonstration, because I live in Italy and today afternoon I have to write two articles for the local newspaper, but consider me as I am there with you. LET’S EXTERMINATE THE MUSLIM WORLDWIDE !
Jim said
Congratulations, I am very glad you are doing this. It is about time someone stood up. Best wishes.
Maggie said
This is good news can anyone confirm the march has gone ahead then ?
Chris said
Wow.
I completely support your demonstration.
Good luck, and don’t back down.
brian said
Hey, here are some pictures and a little description of what I saw.
Link
Overall, very well done. They must have had 25 armored cars and hundreds of officers!
When did everyone get out of jail?
A Wallace said
I hope the demonstration went well. My wife and I hoped to attend but circumstances and the confusion over the legality/illegality of the march prevented us.
Here in Scotland we see daily the Islamisation of the political agenda. Politicians take care not to offend the mere 80,000 Muslims here and actively chase their votes.
Are there any pictures or videos of the demonstration?
swl
doctorbulldog said
I just heard about the arrests. Sometimes, civil disobedience is the only way to show others the seriousness of your cause. Hopefully, others who were blissfully unaware of your cause will wake up and join you in your efforts.
Our thoughts and prayers are with you.
Cheers
multikultur said
# 15 SF
Drew said
Give them hell SIOE!! Loud and clear.
Wish I could be there
Drew
United States
Asterix42 said
You should absolutely demonstrate in France too… It would make such a mess in Paris
Martin said
Regarding today’s demo, the ridiculous police force assembled to counter the voices of a few people who wish to express their view peacefully disgusts me. But it doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. As an Englishman, most of us already regard the Eurocrats in Brussels as bunch of loons. They lost the plot a long time ago. To me Brussels, as HQ of the EU symbolises the death of democracy, as the UK surrenders more and more of its sovereignty over to these bunch of liberal, dictatorial, un-elected morons.
But be brave. Your small demo is just the start. As more people wake up and smell the shari’a coffee, things will get ugly before they get better. But some things are worth fighting for. Ridding Europe of the Nazis does not figure in memory of most dhimmis today. But that was the last real struggle our forebears faced, and they eventually dealt with it (albeit it could have been all prevented had more people listened sooner).
But one can only I wonder how this one will play out.
Islam are the new fascists. And the demented rallying call “Allahu Akbar” is the new “Sieg Heil”.
Monica-Philadelphia said
So? How’d it go? I heard that several people were hustled off in Paddy Wagons.
Rez said
Go ahead, brothers in Brussels.
Go ahead, brothers in Australia.
Go ahead, brothers in America.
STOP ISLAMISATION OF WORLD.
The Enemy Is AMONG Us.
We will never forget. We will never forgive.
FUCK OFF ALLAH (SATAN), ISLAM AND MO THE RAPIST SLAVER PEDOPHILE.
GOD BLESS AMERICA.
GOD BLESS ISRAEL.
GOD BLESS THE RESISTANCE.
Steiner said
For those who believe that violence is the answer, than all hope has already been lost.
Our hope is to move the hearts and minds of those that would listen. To woo them to understand that life is more than service to the law, whether it be sharia or any other.
That a society that is willing to judge by a law that cuts off arms and legs and tongue is one that has lost the knowledge, or sense of what is truly human.
It is human to err. It is human to cry and to laugh; and it is human to be found wanting.
The law is a measure of how we relate to one another, and can only make obvious the symptoms of a person or a community that is not relating positively.
law is a test, a litmus test, a thermometer that measures the symptoms, but is incapable of restoring ourselves.
A society is built upon understanding, upon neighborliness, not upon separation and division as sharia would have it. Separate to what end?
To enable what attitude? What good purpose?
So, we protest, moved to sigh against that which asks us to be inhuman. And those who use the law to stop these protests have become part and parcel of that sharia which is bent on shutting up every mouth and every hope.
Hans said
Some video’s of the violence of the Belgian police.
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=D34jZTSQ8GA
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=pjNL-PfNw1U
SF said
Thanks to evryone that replied to my questions about Wallonia and Flanders, i’ve started to read the Brussels Journal….
Multikultur.
Your English is far better than my German…….Thanks for the reply.