Danish minister invites Ayaan Hirsi Ali to live in Denmark
Posted by Sitemaster on October 15, 2007
Danish minister of Cultural Affairs Brian Mikkelsen (Conservaties) sends a request to the country’s municipalities about inviting the Somalian-born author Ayaan Hirsi Ali to live in Denmark.
Read from SIADs blog: http://siad.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/danish-minister-invites-ayaan-hirsi-ali-to-live-in-denmark/
October 15, 2007 at 9:02 pm
Wonderful ! Beautiful humanitarian gesture ! During her youth Ayaan Hirsi Ali has been physically and mentally mutilated by the Religion of Hate.
Give her the Freedom she deserves and all the bodyguards she needs to protect her from the Religion of Hate.
October 16, 2007 at 1:15 am
Denmark seems to have thrown down the gauntlet. Now let us see the reaction of the Islamic world. It will be fun to watch, and the funnier it is, the more it will expose the RoP.
I wonder when England will stop waving the “RoP - peace in our times” piece of paper.
October 16, 2007 at 2:00 am
A fine guy, Brian Mikkelsen, well done. Two great european spirits, Mikkelsen and Hirsi Ali.
It´s always worth listening to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who should be a kind of teacher for social-workers (and even politicians).
October 16, 2007 at 2:09 am
On a secondary issue - this invitation to Hirsi Ali - a Dutch national, by Denmark, should by all measures, shame the Dutch government, i.e., if they have any sense of honour left.
One can only hope that some sense of what constitutes right from wrong, is still to be found among the political elite of the Netherlands. I sincerely hope so, as the Dutch as a whole, are an impeccably honest and upright people.
October 16, 2007 at 11:28 am
A cynical ploy more like. Denmark’s apparent stand against Islam has a pro-diversity message at its heart. Europe’s elites are worried about Islam but in favour of diversity - Ali is ideal fodder for their argument.
October 16, 2007 at 5:38 pm
A cynical ploy more like?
So doing the right thing can be wrong somehow if it is done for some invented wrong reasons?. That sounds like PC-fascist talk to me.
We should be glad when our governments does something right. And no mater the motive the right thing to do is still right.
We should hope that all European politicians would start doing the right things, even if they do it for “wrong” reasons.
October 16, 2007 at 5:40 pm
Joe
Could you expand on your thesis.
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October 16, 2007 at 9:51 pm
The Danish government didn’t ‘do something right’ - that’s just my point. My guess is that they were persuaded to act as they did because of Ali’s ethnicity, she sort of kills two birds with one stone. On the one hand the Danish government can appear ‘radical’ for daring to offer Ali aid, and on the other Ali sends the message that ‘we’re all in this together’. You know, ‘united in diversity’ etc etc…
October 17, 2007 at 1:12 am
Joe
I take your point that Hirsi Ali gives political cover to the Danish government, particularly from charges of Xenophobia and racism.
Now, no matter what you think of the Danish government’s real motive, it is clear, that the prime enemy to Western civilisation, is the increasing power of Muslims, brought about as a consequence of their numbers in Europe. Anything that Hirsi Ali says that incites Muslims to unreasonable and outrageous behaviour, works in our favour, and hastens the day when we will have convinced most of the native population to say enough to Islam and Muslims. There is just that way, apart from serious civil strife, that will heal this self-inflicted mortal wound to the body of Europe.
October 17, 2007 at 2:33 am
Joe
Again, you don’t address the action but instead question the motives.
Off course inviting Ayaan was the right thing to do. There is nothing wrong about it at all.
Motive-analyst thinking has gotten us into most of our problems. We see our politicians destroying our countries and our culture and for years now this has been justified with “having pure and political correct motives”.
Its time we start judging people and especially politicians by their actions and the outcome of those actions. Motives doesn’t affect us as much as actions does. Talking about motives has become the easy way for those who would harm us to discredit those who would help us.
October 17, 2007 at 11:50 am
‘A’ sets out to assassinate ‘B’. ‘A’ bungles his assassination attempt on ‘B’s life but in such a way that it saves ‘B’s life from another and unexpected harm. Should ‘A’ be praised for trying to kill ‘B’?
October 17, 2007 at 3:45 pm
Joe
No off course not.
But you are setting up the example as if motives are always known to us.
How about this one:
A saves Bs life.
Should saving lives be considered a bad thing, because C thinks that A intended to kill B ?
With your way of judging politicians, they can never do anything right. No matter what they do we can always accuse them of doing it to promote themselves in some way. And obviously most politicians think about how they appear so many times we would be right.
Lets talk about your motives Joe. What is the point of taking such a cheap shot ?. Do you have a problem with Brian Mikkelsen or with Danes in general ?, do you dislike Ayaan Hirsi Ali ?, or maybe seeing people leave Islam make you angry ?
Its a very easy game to play.
October 18, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Sortalf - I certainly have no problem with Danes, as for Mikkelsen, what was his explanation for offering Ali asylum?
I don’t know Ali so I reserve my judgement on her as an individual. But my judgement of her as a member of an alien people concludes that whatever her opinions and beliefs she should be in her own ancestral homeland working to resolve its problems. And that in the long run her presence, and that of her fellows, in my ancestral homeland will be to the detriment of us both.
Was my comment really such a cheap shot? If you recall I was writing in reference to praise for Mikkelsen’s decision rather than to the decision itself.
Is it really possible to do the right thing for the wrong reason?
Finally, may I quote DP111, “Anything that Hirsi Ali says that incites Muslims to unreasonable and outrageous behaviour, works in our favour, and hastens the day when we will have convinced most of the native population to say enough to Islam and Muslims. There is just that way, apart from serious civil strife, that will heal this self-inflicted mortal wound to the body of Europe.” Yes, I agree with that.
October 19, 2007 at 12:06 am
Joe
Mikkelsens explanation was that we already have a program for helping persecuted writers, and he thought Ayaan Hirsi Ali should be considered a top candidate for this. He also said that any City that would invite her would be compensated for the extra cost by the state.
I think that he is right. Ayaan should be protected.
People from other places in the world are not automatically dangerous. Muslims are dangerous, because they believe in hatred. I wish we could trade all our Muslims for Buddhist from Nepal or Hindus from Bali.
And I didn’t think that you disliked Danes I was only using it as an example.
October 19, 2007 at 11:11 am
Whether people from other places in the world are dangerous or not depends on their number. One Zulu moving into a white town is of no consequence, thousands moving in is an altogether different matter.
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October 20, 2007 at 1:04 am
The problem is with islam,
It invariably calls for apartheid. From something as basic as the food laws, we can see how secession is driven.
The food laws are a means to remain apart from those that are not muslims. A muslim will not eat out of a plate that has been used by a non-muslim. Hence, the drive for separation begins with something that seems very innocuous…initially, you will hear muslims talk about how europeans dont understand them, and their need to have their own separate eateries…
Hence, they will want their own food, their own plates and utensils…and since the problem is contamination from non-muslims…they eventually begin to ask for their own separate building…and then it is only logical, once a critical mass is reached to want their own state…secession.
This is occurring all over the world…
Pakistan used to be part of India…Pakistan seceded, and became a muslim state.
Have you heard of any Hindus ever protesting in Pakistan? what happened to the Hindus?
Yet, in India, there are muslims who wish to once again secede…These secessionists blow up trains, buildings…and then the Hindus get blamed for not treating their muslim population fairly…by giving muslims another parcel of land from which Hindus must flee, and allowing the muslims that remain in India to do the same thing all over again.
We dont want this in Europe. Yet, by pandering to islam, we are allowing them to eventually secede…
Unfortunately, it wont end there, because then, they will start all over again, and with support of the new islamic state(s).
We cant afford this to happen in Europe. Hence, the process must be stopped at the beginning. No apartheid, else, go back to saudi arabia.
October 20, 2007 at 5:24 am
As regards to Ayaan Hirsi Ali,
I support her wholeheartedly.
She is intelligent, courageous and well spoken.
I sincerely wish that there were 100 million people like her in Europe.
Europe is enriched by persons that have her courage, perspective and intelligence.
October 20, 2007 at 3:38 pm
I didn’t intend to engage in race discrimination - and I don’t think I did. My point applies equally as well to any of the world’s people.
October 21, 2007 at 11:46 pm
Skin colour must not come into the equation. But the ideology of islam must be questioned at every opportunity by all freedom loving people.
October 29, 2007 at 8:39 am
As Pat Condell says, “my freedom is more important than your faith”.
November 2, 2007 at 1:47 pm
I must take my words back. I cannot support Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Her position on abortion conveys that it is just fine for over 150 million children(if not more) to have been aborted in Europe in the past 20 - 30 years.
Europe would have been better served having had those European kids grow up, than having had them aborted. We would now be served by our own children, than those of others.
Neither am I keen on supporting gay marriage. It is ludicrous to equate it to traditional marriage. We need true mothers and fathers, not some perverted equality.