SIOE in FrontPageMagazine
Posted by Sitemaster on August 24, 2007
Anti-Islamist Rally Banned in Brussels
By Vasko Kohlmayer
FrontPageMagazine.com | 8/22/2007
From the article:
“An eagerly awaited public rally was to take place in Brussels – the capital of the European Union – on September 11 of this year. Called ‘Against Islamisation of Europe,’ its intent was to protest the spreading of Islamic sharia law across the European continent and honor by a minute of silence the victims of the 9/11 terror attacks.
The event was being organized by SIOE (Stop the Islamisation of Europe), an alliance of people from across Europe whose objective is to prevent Islam from ‘becoming a dominant political force in Europe.’ Concerned about the Muslim subversion of the continent’s cultures and institutions, SIOE’s has this to say about Islam:”
Read the article in FrontPage Magazine
Read another recommendable article by Jon N. Hall on DissectingPopCulture
August 24, 2007 at 7:16 pm
Here’s an entire news round-up. Best!
http://millennium-notes.blogspot.com/2007/08/sioe-update-of-fascists-commies-and.html
August 26, 2007 at 2:22 am
Hi,
I am an ex Muslim and I really do not like many things Islam came up with. However, most of the ”Muslims” in Europe do not follow the part of Islam that caused 9/11. That part does not exist for them.
Your demonstration would do nothing good. The opposite. It would nice Al-Qaida and the followers of such organizations to hurt YOUR people. Disagree, point out why you think it is wrong, but do not just provoke an asshole to fight. Why? Because you would cause harm for people who want to go on with their lives.
If you want that, then go for it by all means. If not, why not avoid blood and more misery? Going on with this and fighting intolerance with intolerance does nothing but bad. It would, for someone in the Middle, mean that you are doing the same you are doing.
Think about it and do something to make things better, not worse. Please.
SIOE says: If you believe that our peaceful demonstration would cause blood and misery, then you really make our point! By the way, wanting to stop the islamisation of Europe has absolutely nothing to do with intolerance, on the contrary it is common sense.
August 26, 2007 at 11:26 am
I’ve just read that Thielemans allowed a demonstration on 09-09-’07. A small group, who wants 9/11 investigated! Dou you know anything about this news?
Sitemaster says: We have written about the news in our previous post: Demo-tatorship?? Thielemans’s only allowing his own opinions!
August 26, 2007 at 12:42 pm
Oh..okay, sorry, I’m overlooked it!
August 26, 2007 at 2:58 pm
“..However, most of the ”Muslims” in Europe do not follow the part of Islam that caused 9/11. That part does not exist for them.
@Icae,
Ah, there we go once more.
Would this be the so-called ‘moderate muslims’-speak again? B’cause as you might know all too well from reading the core-txts of your (ex)’Religion of Peace’: at the level of basic doctrine there’s no such thing as ‘moderate Islam’.
(ex)Muslims can be non-violent for a great number of reasons: because they use common (human) sense; because islamization doesn’t need violence (esp. not when you’ve got the ruling EUlites as allies) or because they simply want to be left alone to go their seperate way in our Western societies. Muslims can be non-violent in spite of basic i.e. ‘orthodox’ Islam, yes sure. Islam and non-violence cán go together, for a while. Islam and Freedom (as we still know it) don’t. Taking basic demographic trends into account, the appropriate islamist motto could very well be “Make love, then War”. The latter only if necessary.
The mantra that’s been repeated ad nauseam, i.e. “We can’t help it” to excuse so-called ‘moderates’ is way past its sell-by date. This lofty talk about ‘moderate muslims’ does nothing whatsoever to reverse or even halt the stealthy islamization of Europe by the EU and its ruling caste of plutocrats. Go ahead.. fool yourself, but don’t think for one minute that you can fool the civilized public with veiled threats cloaked as ‘moderateness’. Should all ex-muslims taqiyya-talk the way you do, then what the buck is the meaning of ‘ex-’? Thank God for the real heroes like Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Wafa Sultan. They know the true meaning of the word ‘ex’ and they live it, in spite of mortal threats by the “Religion of Peace”.
Sag.
August 26, 2007 at 5:38 pm
To: Icare
On Turkish TV on 21 August 2007 Mr. Erdogan was asked about “moderate” islam and his AKP party: “This is an ugly word. It is an offense and an insult against our religion. There is no such thing as moderate or immoderate islam. Islam is islam and that’s the way it is !”
Source: MEMRI (The Middle East Medias Research Institute)
August 27, 2007 at 9:01 am
In addition to my previous post, for all those believers in the so-called “moderate Islam”, here’s a comment on the issue from a seasoned muslim-party leader you might be prepared to listen to instead:
PM Erdogan: The Term “Moderate Islam” Is Ugly And Offensive; There Is No Moderate Islam; Islam Is Islam
Speaking at Kanal D TV’s Arena program, PM Erdogan commented on the term “moderate Islam”, often used in the West to describe AKP and said, “These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.”
Source: Milliyet, Turkey, August 21, 2007
http://www.thememriblog.org/turkey/blog_personal/en/2595.htm
So actually, when criticizing Islam for what it really is, most people here at SIOE are not insulting Islam or stigmatizing muslims, au contraire monsieur Thielemans. But this shariasocialist, speaking of ‘moderate islam’ probably insults this wonderful ‘religion-of-peace’ at least twice a day
Sag.
August 27, 2007 at 10:43 am
Monique - never apologise ;-D
August 27, 2007 at 1:40 pm
Re: Jon Hall’s article Dissecting Pop Culture (mentioned above - worth reading)
I agree with the majority of his article - Europe will fall if it doesn’t waken soon. However, who is to say the U.S. won’t fall too, and not just because America will have to stand alone! Islam is making tremendous strides within the U.S, and eventually the country will be eroded and damaged like Europe. Then Americans will have to hang their heads in shame for throwing their democracy away, because thousands lost their lives during the Revolution, and the Civil War.
Americans are right to feel pride in their Constitution, it is a document that is worthy of respect. However, the principles of that document are gradually being eroded by Islam. I would hate to see the U.S. fall, because a sense of superiority causes some citizens to ignore the Islamic threat. If the U.S. isn’t careful and wakes up soon, ultimately the Constitution will mean nothing, because Islam will have destroyed the heart of it. Islamic leaders have openly stated that their goal is to take over the White House, destroy the Constitution, and replace it with Sharia law. Americans need to heed their warnings to Europe, and stop the Islamisation of the U.S.
It is lunacy and arrogance to believe that this is just a European problem. Europe’s citizens are no more foolish and blind than the rest of us. We have all been duped by a duplicitas Islamic community that has abused our collective good will. We have been abused by politicians who have sold their citizens, countries, and souls for votes, power and greed. European citizens have been given no choice with regard to the EU. Soon Americans, Canadians & Mexicans will be fed a ton of propaganda as a prelude to the North American version of the EU, for which we will be given no choice.
ALL western countries are a mess, including the U.S. All of us have screwed up by not paying closer attention to protect our democracies, and we have been royally screwed by politicians who have taken advantage of our apathy. The buck stops with all of us, and it is time for change. SIOE’s September 11th demonstration, is a step in the right direction.
J. Hand
August 28, 2007 at 12:22 am
@Stephen: I apologise for my apologies……
Just kiddin’ haha
Thanks!
August 28, 2007 at 9:12 am
Re: IcareAboutEverybody (2)
Let us remember that the protest is not an attack on Muslims whether they are ‘moderate’ or ‘immoderate’.
Our protest should confront the policy of appeasement which our own governments are adopting toward militant Islam.
August 29, 2007 at 11:06 am
Muslims are not, by now, our enemy.
Simply enforcing the laws we have, and changing some, without any exception for muslims, would be enough.
Our thrue enemy is the coalition of poltician, fake jornalists and eurocrats that supports muslims to enforce their rotted ideology