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Yes I just saw the movie on LIVELEAK. If I could I would make a million copies and hand them out in Times Square, New York City (with many bodyguards, of course). Thank you Geert Wilders, a courageous man. Now only if the rest of the native population of The Netherlands was brave like him. I am an American and wish we had an American Geert Wilders!
To those already familiar with Islam, the film presents nothing new. SO, What was the fuss all about ? AND I have yet to hear a single Muslim saying that the film contains falsehoods. None so far ! Only one statement that the Quran verses in the film have been taken ‘out of context.’ But NO PROOF whatsoever.
The tragedy of this whole affair is that non-muslims are more willing to bow to Muslims’ demands than defending their own lot. Where are those leftists who’d ‘rather die’ than allowing the
censor of films & books which insult & blasphemize against Christianity ??? Where are their shrill calls demanding freedom of speech now ?
byzinski Says: ‘I am an American and wish we had an American Geert Wilders!’
Americans now have Robert Spencer, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Wafa Sultan & Nonie Darwish, Dr Zakaria Boutros (to name but a few), you devil !!! You lucky lot ! We in Britain have these sad characters called the Archbishop of Canterbury & a prince by the nickname of Al Wales and his second wife, named after a camel, who are only too happy to make the UK another province of Islam. Even PM Gordon Brown wants to make London ‘the financial hub of Shari’a Banking.’ Pity us, your leaderless & miserable cousins in the UK.
Geert Wilders film while good failed to truly explain to the Hear No Evil, See No Evil, Do Nothing About Evil, Stupid Infidels the reality that All Muslims believe that the Koran is the Eternal divine word of God and must be obeyed without question. Wilders also did not include the 3 most important teachings of Islam : 9:5 – Extermination of all Non Believers i.e. infidels, 9:29 Extermination of all Christians and Jews and 9:111 – those Muslims who kill and are killed performing 9:5 and 9:29 will ascend to Paradise filled with full breasted, lustrous eyed virgins to sexually molest for all eternity. That 9/11 is Koran 9:111.
He should also have included a short statement describing the criminality of Muhammad.
That Muhammad was the First Nazi SS man. He ordered 60 massacres and personally was involved in 27 atrocities. At the massacre of the Jews of Banu Quraiza, Muhammad personally assisted in the beheading of 600 to 900 Jewish men. In order to distinguish between young Jewish boys and young Jewish men Muhammad ordered his murderous Muslim Jihadists to pull down their pants. Just the slightest traces of public hair and the young Jewish boy/man were beheaded. Their mothers and sisters were then raped by Muhammad and his Muslim men and either made into sex slaves or sold into slavery.
He needed to better explain that in Islam, deceit, torture, murder, assassination, massacre, genocide, pillage, robbery, enslavement and rape are halal (legal) acts, deserving of paradise, AS LONG AS THEY WERE PERPETRATED ON INFIDELS. These evil, immoral teachings became the ETERNAL LAWS OF ALLAH (the ANTI GOD)
That all Muslims believe the Koran is the Eternal divine word of God – the Eternal laws of God. All Muslims believe that God authored the Koran and a copy of the Koran is in heaven. The Koran remains for all Muslims, not just “fundamentalists,” the uncreated word of God Himself. It is valid for all times and places forever; its ideas are absolutely true and beyond all criticism. To question it is to question the very word of God, and hence blasphemous. A Muslim’s duty is to believe it and obey its divine commands without question.
That Muslims can be killed (beheaded) for doing any of the following:
Reviling Allah or his Messenger; (2) being sarcastic about ‘Allah’s name, His command, His interdiction, His promise, or His threat’; (3) denying any verse of the Quran or ‘anything which by scholarly consensus belongs to it, or to add a verse that does not belong to it’; (4) holding that ‘any of Allah’s messengers or prophets are liars, or to deny their being sent’; (5) reviling the religion of Islam; (6) being sarcastic about any ruling of the Sacred Law; (7) denying that Allah intended ‘the Prophet’s message . . . to be the religion followed by the entire world.’
This means exactly what it says. ALL MUSLIMS BELIEVE that the Koran is the ETERNAL word/teachings of God to be followed without question. If a Muslim challenges or questions the Koran, HE IS NO LONGER A MUSLIM BUT AN APOSTATE OF ISLAM and can be killed.
The cold hard evil reality - the Koran can never be changed not even one word. When you are reading teachings of the Koran, you are reading the word of God himself and you must OBEY. THERE IS NO CHOICE. There is no exercising free will, no employing logic, reason, rationality, morality. These teachings are for all time - FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER.
This is the most important insanity that ALL Muslims believe – THAT MEANS ALL MUSLIMS. This belief in the KORNIC ETERNAL LAWS OF GOD is a disaster that has the potential to destroy humanity and civilization as we know it.
MURDERING INFIDELS AS AN ETERNAL LAW OF GOD
9:5 When the sacred months have passed away, THEN SLAY THE IDOLATERS (unbelievers) WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, AND TAKE THEM CAPTIVES AND BESIEGE THEM AND LIE IN WAIT FOR THEM IN EVERY AMBUSH, then if they repent and keep up prayer [become believers] and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them
This is the notorious VERSE OF THE SWORD. 9:50 abolishes ALL peace teachings from the Koran. God is commanding as a holy duty the EXTERMINATION OF ALL INFIDELS FROM FACE OF THE EARTH.
9:29 Fight those who believe not in God nor the last day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of truth, (even if they are) of the people of the Book [Christians and Jews], until they pay the jizya [poll tax] with willing submission, feel themselves subdued.”
This verse means EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS. Convert to Islam, or pay a devastating submission tax or BE MURDERED.
For those Muslims who slay and are slain in fulfilling the above teachings, murdering Infidels, they are GUARANTEED accession to a sexual Paradise filled with full breasted, lustrous eyed eyes virgins who re – generate as virgins after each sex act to sexually molest for all eternity.
THIS IS TRUE INSANITY
EVIL PARADISE
An evil Paradise of big breasted, big eyed Hurs to be sexually molested for all eternity as a reward for those who slay and are slain in the service of God.
9:111 “Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden (Paradise) will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain”
“As for the righteous (Muslims)…We (Allah) shall wed them to beautiful virgins with lustrous eyes” - Q 44:51-54
Islam is a revealed religion and the way it was revealed must be made known, because there lays the key to understanding Islam. The following information can be easily accessed in the West with little effort and research.
When Mohammed was contacted by the spirit (Jibrail) in the cave he was convinced he had been contacted by a harmful (evil) spirit and returned very distressed to his wife Khadijah, who thought otherwise, and to reassure Mohammed, she took him to her cousin Waraqa ibn Naufal, who, allegedly, was “a very old man who knew the Scriptures of the Jews and Christians” and on this old man’s OPINION , the spirit who had contacted Mohammed was declared as coming from God and that Mohammed was to become the Prophet of his people! (pages 10 and 11 of the introduction to the English translation of the Holy Quran by Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall). If this old man really knew the Christian Scriptures he would have told Mohammed that he had been contacted by an evil spirit (as Mohammed had correctly thought when the spirit had first appeared to him) on the basis of the biblical teaching found in the New Testament in the letter to the Galatians 1:8 where it is stated …”if an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached (Jesus’ gospel) let him be eternally condemned”…
To be brief… the Koran was revealed by a false spirit (a demon) as the translator Marmaduke Pickthall so unwittingly gives testimony to in his introduction of the Holy Quran page 11, 3rd paragraph: “the words which came to him (Mohammed) when in a state of trance are held sacred by the Muslims and are never confounded with those which he uttered when no physical change was apparent in him. The former are the Sacred Book (the Koran); the latter the Hadith or Sunnah…” with the above statement Pickthall is confirming that the Koran was recited by Mohammed while in a state of trace or in other words under demonic possession. Consequently, it should not surprise us that when a person starts believing in the Koran, a demonic product, he turns evil. In the New Testament in the letter to the Ephesians 4:30 …” God’s Holy Spirit… gets rid of all bitterness, passion, anger… hateful feelings of any sort… instead makes you kind and tender hearted… forgiving one another… as God has forgiven you through Christ.” This Spirit is not the spirit that leads practicing muslims to become suicide bombers .
As Christians in the West we have a great opportunity and obligation to lovingly approach our Muslim neighbours with the Good News of the true Jesus so that their eyes may be opened and step from darkness into light.
With all the hoopla about how islam is peace, and how the extremists that do not represent islam have ruined its image….You would think that governments like the Indonesian government and other islamic ones were doing something about it right?
In Indonesia over 100 churches were forced to close by both government order and extremist attacks…
Guess how many extremist mosques were forced to close down?
Apparently, the Indonesian government must not believe there are any extremists in its country other than the Christians…
And yet they demand more and more foreign money to deal with terrorism….
I wonder…where is the foreign money going? to systematically persecute Christians and their churches…
March 28, 2008 at 10:04 am
Yes I just saw the movie on LIVELEAK. If I could I would make a million copies and hand them out in Times Square, New York City (with many bodyguards, of course). Thank you Geert Wilders, a courageous man. Now only if the rest of the native population of The Netherlands was brave like him. I am an American and wish we had an American Geert Wilders!
March 28, 2008 at 1:29 pm
I’m so glad he followed my suggestion
It is also available on bittorrent:
http://www.mininova.org/tor/1276958
Leave it open, share it, spread it … hopefully, it will spawn a large number of followers.
March 28, 2008 at 3:09 pm
To those already familiar with Islam, the film presents nothing new. SO, What was the fuss all about ? AND I have yet to hear a single Muslim saying that the film contains falsehoods. None so far ! Only one statement that the Quran verses in the film have been taken ‘out of context.’ But NO PROOF whatsoever.
The tragedy of this whole affair is that non-muslims are more willing to bow to Muslims’ demands than defending their own lot. Where are those leftists who’d ‘rather die’ than allowing the
censor of films & books which insult & blasphemize against Christianity ??? Where are their shrill calls demanding freedom of speech now ?
Heheheh … cowards ! Dhimmies !
March 28, 2008 at 3:17 pm
byzinski Says: ‘I am an American and wish we had an American Geert Wilders!’
Americans now have Robert Spencer, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Wafa Sultan & Nonie Darwish, Dr Zakaria Boutros (to name but a few), you devil !!! You lucky lot ! We in Britain have these sad characters called the Archbishop of Canterbury & a prince by the nickname of Al Wales and his second wife, named after a camel, who are only too happy to make the UK another province of Islam. Even PM Gordon Brown wants to make London ‘the financial hub of Shari’a Banking.’ Pity us, your leaderless & miserable cousins in the UK.
March 28, 2008 at 4:47 pm
GEERT WILDERS FILM: GOOD BUT MISSED A NUMBER OF VERY IMPORTANT POINTS
By
Larry Houle
http://www.godofreason.com
intermedusa@yahoo.com
Geert Wilders film while good failed to truly explain to the Hear No Evil, See No Evil, Do Nothing About Evil, Stupid Infidels the reality that All Muslims believe that the Koran is the Eternal divine word of God and must be obeyed without question. Wilders also did not include the 3 most important teachings of Islam : 9:5 – Extermination of all Non Believers i.e. infidels, 9:29 Extermination of all Christians and Jews and 9:111 – those Muslims who kill and are killed performing 9:5 and 9:29 will ascend to Paradise filled with full breasted, lustrous eyed virgins to sexually molest for all eternity. That 9/11 is Koran 9:111.
He should also have included a short statement describing the criminality of Muhammad.
That Muhammad was the First Nazi SS man. He ordered 60 massacres and personally was involved in 27 atrocities. At the massacre of the Jews of Banu Quraiza, Muhammad personally assisted in the beheading of 600 to 900 Jewish men. In order to distinguish between young Jewish boys and young Jewish men Muhammad ordered his murderous Muslim Jihadists to pull down their pants. Just the slightest traces of public hair and the young Jewish boy/man were beheaded. Their mothers and sisters were then raped by Muhammad and his Muslim men and either made into sex slaves or sold into slavery.
He needed to better explain that in Islam, deceit, torture, murder, assassination, massacre, genocide, pillage, robbery, enslavement and rape are halal (legal) acts, deserving of paradise, AS LONG AS THEY WERE PERPETRATED ON INFIDELS. These evil, immoral teachings became the ETERNAL LAWS OF ALLAH (the ANTI GOD)
That all Muslims believe the Koran is the Eternal divine word of God – the Eternal laws of God. All Muslims believe that God authored the Koran and a copy of the Koran is in heaven. The Koran remains for all Muslims, not just “fundamentalists,” the uncreated word of God Himself. It is valid for all times and places forever; its ideas are absolutely true and beyond all criticism. To question it is to question the very word of God, and hence blasphemous. A Muslim’s duty is to believe it and obey its divine commands without question.
That Muslims can be killed (beheaded) for doing any of the following:
Reviling Allah or his Messenger; (2) being sarcastic about ‘Allah’s name, His command, His interdiction, His promise, or His threat’; (3) denying any verse of the Quran or ‘anything which by scholarly consensus belongs to it, or to add a verse that does not belong to it’; (4) holding that ‘any of Allah’s messengers or prophets are liars, or to deny their being sent’; (5) reviling the religion of Islam; (6) being sarcastic about any ruling of the Sacred Law; (7) denying that Allah intended ‘the Prophet’s message . . . to be the religion followed by the entire world.’
This means exactly what it says. ALL MUSLIMS BELIEVE that the Koran is the ETERNAL word/teachings of God to be followed without question. If a Muslim challenges or questions the Koran, HE IS NO LONGER A MUSLIM BUT AN APOSTATE OF ISLAM and can be killed.
The cold hard evil reality - the Koran can never be changed not even one word. When you are reading teachings of the Koran, you are reading the word of God himself and you must OBEY. THERE IS NO CHOICE. There is no exercising free will, no employing logic, reason, rationality, morality. These teachings are for all time - FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER.
This is the most important insanity that ALL Muslims believe – THAT MEANS ALL MUSLIMS. This belief in the KORNIC ETERNAL LAWS OF GOD is a disaster that has the potential to destroy humanity and civilization as we know it.
MURDERING INFIDELS AS AN ETERNAL LAW OF GOD
9:5 When the sacred months have passed away, THEN SLAY THE IDOLATERS (unbelievers) WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, AND TAKE THEM CAPTIVES AND BESIEGE THEM AND LIE IN WAIT FOR THEM IN EVERY AMBUSH, then if they repent and keep up prayer [become believers] and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them
This is the notorious VERSE OF THE SWORD. 9:50 abolishes ALL peace teachings from the Koran. God is commanding as a holy duty the EXTERMINATION OF ALL INFIDELS FROM FACE OF THE EARTH.
9:29 Fight those who believe not in God nor the last day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of truth, (even if they are) of the people of the Book [Christians and Jews], until they pay the jizya [poll tax] with willing submission, feel themselves subdued.”
This verse means EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS. Convert to Islam, or pay a devastating submission tax or BE MURDERED.
For those Muslims who slay and are slain in fulfilling the above teachings, murdering Infidels, they are GUARANTEED accession to a sexual Paradise filled with full breasted, lustrous eyed eyes virgins who re – generate as virgins after each sex act to sexually molest for all eternity.
THIS IS TRUE INSANITY
EVIL PARADISE
An evil Paradise of big breasted, big eyed Hurs to be sexually molested for all eternity as a reward for those who slay and are slain in the service of God.
9:111 “Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden (Paradise) will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain”
“As for the righteous (Muslims)…We (Allah) shall wed them to beautiful virgins with lustrous eyes” - Q 44:51-54
Can you imagine murderers going to Paradise.
Islam is EVIL IN THE NAME OF GOD
March 29, 2008 at 12:33 am
Geert Wilders - Fitna the movie
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/2276957/7157847
March 29, 2008 at 1:56 am
I wish I could vote for Geert Wilders.
March 29, 2008 at 10:54 am
AMERICA LOVES ISLAM
http://www.video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2815871914156615503
March 29, 2008 at 11:01 am
Islam is a revealed religion and the way it was revealed must be made known, because there lays the key to understanding Islam. The following information can be easily accessed in the West with little effort and research.
When Mohammed was contacted by the spirit (Jibrail) in the cave he was convinced he had been contacted by a harmful (evil) spirit and returned very distressed to his wife Khadijah, who thought otherwise, and to reassure Mohammed, she took him to her cousin Waraqa ibn Naufal, who, allegedly, was “a very old man who knew the Scriptures of the Jews and Christians” and on this old man’s OPINION , the spirit who had contacted Mohammed was declared as coming from God and that Mohammed was to become the Prophet of his people! (pages 10 and 11 of the introduction to the English translation of the Holy Quran by Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall). If this old man really knew the Christian Scriptures he would have told Mohammed that he had been contacted by an evil spirit (as Mohammed had correctly thought when the spirit had first appeared to him) on the basis of the biblical teaching found in the New Testament in the letter to the Galatians 1:8 where it is stated …”if an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached (Jesus’ gospel) let him be eternally condemned”…
To be brief… the Koran was revealed by a false spirit (a demon) as the translator Marmaduke Pickthall so unwittingly gives testimony to in his introduction of the Holy Quran page 11, 3rd paragraph: “the words which came to him (Mohammed) when in a state of trance are held sacred by the Muslims and are never confounded with those which he uttered when no physical change was apparent in him. The former are the Sacred Book (the Koran); the latter the Hadith or Sunnah…” with the above statement Pickthall is confirming that the Koran was recited by Mohammed while in a state of trace or in other words under demonic possession. Consequently, it should not surprise us that when a person starts believing in the Koran, a demonic product, he turns evil. In the New Testament in the letter to the Ephesians 4:30 …” God’s Holy Spirit… gets rid of all bitterness, passion, anger… hateful feelings of any sort… instead makes you kind and tender hearted… forgiving one another… as God has forgiven you through Christ.” This Spirit is not the spirit that leads practicing muslims to become suicide bombers .
As Christians in the West we have a great opportunity and obligation to lovingly approach our Muslim neighbours with the Good News of the true Jesus so that their eyes may be opened and step from darkness into light.
March 29, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Support of whole Slovakia to Geert Wilder!!!
For now we have only few islam suckers here in Slovkia, but time will change and i will be there and fight for democracy and freedom!
March 30, 2008 at 11:09 am
plz how i can download this movie ?
March 30, 2008 at 11:20 am
@Elias: http://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=fitna
March 30, 2008 at 6:06 pm
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v652660889GGn7G2
ready to download version
March 30, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Dr Wafa Sultan and her family have gone into hiding after Egyptian cleric Sheik al-Qaradawi issued a death Fatwa against her.
She is asking for our help here
March 31, 2008 at 7:21 am
GEERT WILDER IS A NEW AMERICAN HERO TO THE SILENT MAJORITY. GOD BLESS GEERT
March 31, 2008 at 10:59 am
God bless Wilders
http://leblogdrzz.over-blog.com
April 1, 2008 at 3:40 pm
This had to be said….
http://patdollard.com/2008/03/liveleak-to-islam-fuck-you-were-putting-fitna-back-up-now-video/
April 1, 2008 at 4:04 pm
#15 jerome
Well we have bigger SILENT MAJORITY in Europe… and point of fitna was nothing except provoking a discussion, so people speak…
but ARGHHH… SILENT MAJORITY can’t speak..
What ever, as a Indian in Europe.. i think, getting tagged as Islamophobe is at least a small price, which we have to pay to secure our future..!
April 2, 2008 at 12:40 am
How do i download the movie?
April 3, 2008 at 10:05 am
@Lozzer: http://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=fitna
April 6, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Just a thought for the politically correct..
With all the hoopla about how islam is peace, and how the extremists that do not represent islam have ruined its image….You would think that governments like the Indonesian government and other islamic ones were doing something about it right?
In Indonesia over 100 churches were forced to close by both government order and extremist attacks…
Guess how many extremist mosques were forced to close down?
Apparently, the Indonesian government must not believe there are any extremists in its country other than the Christians…
And yet they demand more and more foreign money to deal with terrorism….
I wonder…where is the foreign money going? to systematically persecute Christians and their churches…